Depending on which targets are suitable, you may choose one of these science themes:
- Take spectra of several recent supernovae to measure their redshifts, spectral evolution, and elemental/chemical abundances etc.
- Take high-cadence photometry on a very recent supernova (SN) or CV outburst / a dwarf nova (must coordinate with P2G4 after target selection, in this case), or take both photometry and spectroscopy on the same nights
Telescope time
We can use a couple of hours each night during May 17 through May 30 on the 216cm telescope, at max (unlikely we will have all of them, perhaps only May 17, when we are there). On May 16 it's a different instrument.
We could also use the 80cm telescope during the same dates to do simultaneous photometry together with your spectroscopic observations, if you can justify.
We need to finish data analyses by June 1, so don't push it too late...
Here's Xinglong's schedule:
Target selection
Tips
红移要在0.01以下,附近也许勉强可以,这是由2.16米光谱仪BFOSC的波长范围限定的。也可以选稍微大一点的~0.02以内,类型是Ibn可以再大一些。
测光的源亮度不要低于19-20等,光谱的源不要低于17-18。测光的源估计要选10-20个左右,光谱的源5-10个左右,取决于每个源的曝光时间。
如果想做测光和光谱同时的high cadence observations(这样只能观测一个源),一定要选爆发特别早期的源才有意义。但特别早期的一般很暗。
现在选源略早,最终确定还是要提前几天,甚至一天,因为谁也不知道会不会突然爆一个特别好的源。所以现在先练手,选一些备用的源,并熟悉各大报告transient的网站,练习画airmass图,月亮距离图等等,到时候能够迅速锁定可行的源。另外重点熟悉ZTF那个网站,以及其他两个网站提供的辅助信息。
What are the targets that are observable at Xinglong with my telescope and my instrument on the night of May 17?
List and specify your requirements. Broadly, you need to consider these factors:
- Visibility
- Brightness
- If you are observing a time-sensitive target, will the target be at an appropriate stage/status for your observation (e.g., transit? transient fading out too faint already? etc.)?
Resources
Some helpful websites:
The Xinglong one is useful because it tells you the telescope's pointing limit. We do not want to go beyond the pointing limit!
List of latest supernovae and other transiets:
Zwicky bright transient explorer:
Latest CV outburst:
Possible Candidates
RA=10:55:31.228, DEC=+11:04:34.43, Discovery date=2025-05-02 06:23:14.003, Discovery mag=19.6682 ABMag, Filter: g - ZTF, Reporter: Jesper Sollerman (SU), Christoffer Fremling (Caltech), Daniel Perley (LJMU), Theophile du Laz (Calt..., Reporting group: ZTF, Data source group: ZTF
RA=11:54:24.227, DEC=+37:58:40.62, Discovery date=2025-05-01 07:53:09.000, Discovery mag=20.2948 ABMag, Filter: g - ZTF, Reporter: Jesper Sollerman (SU), Christoffer Fremling (Caltech), Daniel Perley (LJMU), Theophile du Laz (Calt..., Reporting group: ZTF, Data source group: ZTF
• 2025ivc (= ZTF25aaoxrmn) discovered 2025/04/30.417 at R.A. = 18h21m34s.693, Decl. = +26°56'18".97 Mag 19.2:4/30, Type II (z=0.01) (host UGC 11209) (References: TNS, ZTF observations)

2025ina
Exposure time calculation
Exposure time calculator for the BFOSC instrument on the 2.16-meter (enter the target's estimated magnitude on 5/16!):
Choose the slit width and grism setting as follows (or slit = 2.3):

You want to have SNR>~10, and then calculate the estimated exposure time for this SNR threshold.
You can check out the light curves of other supernova to guess how much fainter the star would be in a week or two.
You may want to use a long slit to get the spectrum of the galaxy as well, if you want. In that case, you may want to check the needed exposure to get a good galaxy spectrum (galaxies are very faint! you can calculate their integrated brightness by using the slit width and their surface brightness).
A good reference for exposure time estimate is this paper:
Scientific values
Evaluate the scientific values of your options, and finalize the targets (including 1-2 backup targets).
Some basic questions/thinking:
- Which science question does this target address?
- Has anyone else taken similar data on this target before?
- What is the unique science value of my data for this target in the context of my science question?
- Am I interested in pursuing this?
Tips
In addition to the website you used to select target, you can check out the existing follow-up observations and people's report on this website:
Late time spectra are useful too even if the target already has a readshift measurement and/or classification spectra.
If you want to do high-cadence observations on a SN, the most valuable ones are the ones before the peak or very near the peak.
If you want to do high-cadence observations on a CV outburst, then the bigger the burst, the better. Special/rare targets are better too.