project2 report1

 
Depending on which targets are suitable, you may choose one of these science themes:
 
  • Take spectra of several recent supernovae to measure their redshifts, spectral evolution, and elemental/chemical abundances etc.
  • Take high-cadence photometry on a very recent supernova (SN) or CV outburst / a dwarf nova (must coordinate with P2G4 after target selection, in this case), or take both photometry and spectroscopy on the same nights
 

Telescope time

We can use a couple of hours each night during May 17 through May 30 on the 216cm telescope, at max (unlikely we will have all of them, perhaps only May 17, when we are there). On May 16 it's a different instrument.
 
We could also use the 80cm telescope during the same dates to do simultaneous photometry together with your spectroscopic observations, if you can justify.
 
We need to finish data analyses by June 1, so don't push it too late...
 
Here's Xinglong's schedule:

Target selection

Tips

红移要在0.01以下,附近也许勉强可以,这是由2.16米光谱仪BFOSC的波长范围限定的。也可以选稍微大一点的~0.02以内,类型是Ibn可以再大一些。
测光的源亮度不要低于19-20等,光谱的源不要低于17-18。测光的源估计要选10-20个左右,光谱的源5-10个左右,取决于每个源的曝光时间。
如果想做测光和光谱同时的high cadence observations(这样只能观测一个源),一定要选爆发特别早期的源才有意义。但特别早期的一般很暗。
现在选源略早,最终确定还是要提前几天,甚至一天,因为谁也不知道会不会突然爆一个特别好的源。所以现在先练手,选一些备用的源,并熟悉各大报告transient的网站,练习画airmass图,月亮距离图等等,到时候能够迅速锁定可行的源。另外重点熟悉ZTF那个网站,以及其他两个网站提供的辅助信息。
 
What are the targets that are observable at Xinglong with my telescope and my instrument on the night of May 17?
List and specify your requirements. Broadly, you need to consider these factors:
  • Visibility
  • Brightness
  • If you are observing a time-sensitive target, will the target be at an appropriate stage/status for your observation (e.g., transit? transient fading out too faint already? etc.)?
 

Resources

Some helpful websites:
The Xinglong one is useful because it tells you the telescope's pointing limit. We do not want to go beyond the pointing limit!
 
 
List of latest supernovae and other transiets:
 
Zwicky bright transient explorer:
 
Latest CV outburst:
 

Possible Candidates

 
 
RA=10:55:31.228, DEC=+11:04:34.43, Discovery date=2025-05-02 06:23:14.003, Discovery mag=19.6682 ABMag, Filter: g - ZTF, Reporter: Jesper Sollerman (SU), Christoffer Fremling (Caltech), Daniel Perley (LJMU), Theophile du Laz (Calt..., Reporting group: ZTF, Data source group: ZTF
RA=11:54:24.227, DEC=+37:58:40.62, Discovery date=2025-05-01 07:53:09.000, Discovery mag=20.2948 ABMag, Filter: g - ZTF, Reporter: Jesper Sollerman (SU), Christoffer Fremling (Caltech), Daniel Perley (LJMU), Theophile du Laz (Calt..., Reporting group: ZTF, Data source group: ZTF
• AT2025kih (= ZTF25aapwrnh) discovered 2025/05/10.263 at R.A. = 11h09m32s.997, Decl. = +26°17'46".35 Mag 19.4:5/10, Type unknown (zhost=0.102262) (host LEDA 1770761) (References: TNSZTF observations) • AT2025khp (= ZTF25aapxtna) discovered 2025/05/10.406 at R.A. = 17h46m02s.489, Decl. = +59°19'27".34 Mag 19.4:5/10, Type unknown (zhost=0.028807) (host UGC 10982) (References: TNSZTF observations)RA=17:46:02.489, DEC=+59:19:27.34, Discovery date=2025-05-10 09:44:29.000, Discovery mag=19.446 ABMag, Filter: r - ZTF, Reporter: I. Pérez-Fournon (IAC and ULL), D. Cano-Morales, I. Correa-Plasencia, A.E. Hernández-Díaz, C. Ja..., Reporting group: SGLF, Data source group: SGLF
• 2025ivc (= ZTF25aaoxrmn) discovered 2025/04/30.417 at R.A. = 18h21m34s.693, Decl. = +26°56'18".97 Mag 19.2:4/30, Type II (z=0.01) (host UGC 11209) (References: TNSZTF observations)
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2025ina
2025iqz z=0.034
 
 

Exposure time calculation

 
Exposure time calculator for the BFOSC instrument on the 2.16-meter (enter the target's estimated magnitude on 5/16!):
Choose the slit width and grism setting as follows (or slit = 2.3):
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You want to have SNR>~10, and then calculate the estimated exposure time for this SNR threshold.
You can check out the light curves of other supernova to guess how much fainter the star would be in a week or two.
 
You may want to use a long slit to get the spectrum of the galaxy as well, if you want. In that case, you may want to check the needed exposure to get a good galaxy spectrum (galaxies are very faint! you can calculate their integrated brightness by using the slit width and their surface brightness).
 
A good reference for exposure time estimate is this paper:
SN 2015bf: A fast declining type II supernova with flash-ionized signatures
We present optical and ultraviolet photometry, as well as optical spectra, for the type II supernova (SN) 2015bf. Our observations cover the phases from ~2 to ~200 d after explosion. The first spectrum is characterized by a blue continuum with a blackbody temperature of ~24 000 K and flash-ionized emission lines. After about 1 week, the spectra of SN 2015bf evolve like those of a regular SN II. From the luminosity of the narrow emission component of H α, we deduce that the mass-loss rate is larger than ${\sim}3.7\times 10^{-3}\, {\rm M_\odot \, yr^{-1}}$. The disappearance of the flash features in the first week after explosion indicates that the circumstellar material is confined within ~6 × 10<SUP>14</SUP> cm. Thus, we suggest that the progenitor of SN 2015bf experienced violent mass loss shortly before the supernova explosion. The multiband light curves show that SN 2015bf has a high peak luminosity with an absolute visual magnitude M<SUB>V</SUB> = -18.11 ± 0.08 mag and a fast post-peak decline with a V-band decay of 1.22 ± 0.09 mag within ~50 d after maximum light. Moreover, the R-band tail luminosity of SN 2015bf is fainter than that of SNe II with similar peak by 1-2 mag, suggesting a small amount of <SUP>56</SUP>Ni (${\sim}0.009\, {\rm M_\odot }$) synthesized during the explosion. Such a low nickel mass indicates that the progenitor of SN 2015bf could be a super-asymptotic-giant-branch star that collapsed owing to electron capture.
SN 2015bf: A fast declining type II supernova with flash-ionized signaturesSN 2015bf: A fast declining type II supernova with flash-ionized signatures
 

Scientific values

Evaluate the scientific values of your options, and finalize the targets (including 1-2 backup targets).
Some basic questions/thinking:
  • Which science question does this target address?
  • Has anyone else taken similar data on this target before?
  • What is the unique science value of my data for this target in the context of my science question?
  • Am I interested in pursuing this?

Tips

In addition to the website you used to select target, you can check out the existing follow-up observations and people's report on this website:
Late time spectra are useful too even if the target already has a readshift measurement and/or classification spectra.
If you want to do high-cadence observations on a SN, the most valuable ones are the ones before the peak or very near the peak.
If you want to do high-cadence observations on a CV outburst, then the bigger the burst, the better. Special/rare targets are better too.